This is a long blog but hopefully, well worth it. It was written by Mark Pitstick, MA, DC. You can read more about his background here: www.soulproof.com.
This is a topic of fascination not only by members of Orange County IANDS but others around the world – life between lives where the planning takes place for our next life.
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Have you ever wondered . . .
1. Are the events planned that happen while you are on Earth?
2. Who does the planning? God? Your soul? Your guides?
3. To what degree are events planned? Are they completely “set-in-stone” or just partially influenced?
4. Do souls always succeed with their plans, or do they sometimes fail?
5. Can pre-planning be changed and, if so, by whom?
6. And – the biggest question – why in the world would souls choose to suffer with illness, disability, death of loved ones, etc.?
If you have thought about these questions, you have lots of company. I hear them almost daily from people around the world, especially those who are experiencing significant tragedy, pain, sadness, loneliness, and hopelessness.
It’s completely understandable that they ask these questions. Those who have endured tough changes and challenges struggle to discover if there really is purpose and meaning to life. Or is life just a series of random, chaotic, and unfair events?
One couple wrote to me after a horrible event: “Our daughter was murdered and the man who did it was never caught.” A mother wrote: “My son was addicted to drugs for many years and eventually died by suicide.” These are very difficult and hear-breaking events.
To be honest, I’ve wrestled with these questions for over forty years. Working in hospitals with many suffering and dying people, including children, can do that. In addition, I’ve worked with many people like the parents above. A person with an open heart on this planet can either find sensible answers, shut down emotionally, numb out with drugs and alcohol, or go crazy.
In this article, I will share my best current understandings. I don’t claim to have all the answers or the only answers. But I do have many good answers that have helped many people make more sense of life on Earth.
The questions above are most haunting when you view life from a duality perspective. Dualism is the belief that life is divided, that you are separate from others and the Source of all life. Einstein considered the belief that you are separate from the rest of creation to be an optical delusion. When you believe only you’re your five senses report, you are trapped in dualist beliefs. You suffer from illusions that warp your perceptions of reality.
Even though your five senses are amazing, it’s a scientific fact that they detect much less than 1% of reality. It’s as though you’ve looked at life through a tiny pinhole and then wondered why it doesn’t make sense. The more you see beyond your five senses, the greater your degree of unity consciousness. You enjoy an increased awareness that all life is interconnected, ever-expanding, and never-ending.
Spiritually transformative experiences (STE’s) awaken you to a greater reality that help all life events—even the sad and bad ones—make more sense. STEs can be triggered by: near-death experiences, after-death contacts, out-of-body experiences, birth or death of loved ones, mind-altering drugs, encountering a miracle, religious/ spiritual revelatory experiences, or a close encounter with death or violence. STE’s can also occur spontaneously without any identifiable cause, thereby supporting the notion that “when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.”
Centering practices that can facilitate STE’s include: spiritual study and fellowship; meditation; deeply loving a person or pet; drumming and chanting; service to others; quiet time in nature; sacred lovemaking; crafts; and inspirational artwork, literature, or theater. These help quiet the mind and strengthen an inner knowing that there is much more to life than meets the eye.
The more you know that you are one with All That Is—now and forever—the less important the six questions above become. You may be curious, but you don’t ask them because you are motivated by fear. You know that life is a never-ending, albeit often-changing, dance of energy. The more you glimpse this bigger picture, you more you realize that your earth-experience is a totally safe, meaningful, and magnificent adventure amidst forever.
Glimpsing that you—and everyone else—are indestructible, interconnected, and eternal beings of spirit/consciousness/energy removes or greatly decreases fear.
A dualistic perspective creates needless melodrama. The more developed your unity consciousness, the more peace, joy, comfort, and hope you will feel.
However, some people aren’t ready for a discussion that goes beyond dualism. And so, as I answer the questions above, I’ll use some dualistic language that implies you are separate from your loved ones, your spiritual support team, and Universal Intelligence. But you’re not.
The evidence behind my answers comes from:
• near-death experiencers, particularly those with deeper visits into the Light
• authentic mediums who accurately communicate details from guides, angels, and those who have passed on
• spirituality/religious teachings that there is a deeper meaning and timing to all life events
• reports from spiritual regressions—long hypnotic sessions in which subjects recall life details before coming to Earth
• philosophical views of the best way Infinite Intelligence might design life
• everything I’ve learned and thought in over 40 years of researching topics about life, death, and afterlife
The following people have helped inform me about this subject through their books and/or personal communications: Michael Newton, Ph.D., Eben Alexander, M.D., Raymond Moody, M.D., Ph.D., Annie Kagan, Helen Greaves, Suzanne Giesemann, Gary Schwartz, Ph.D., Rob Schwartz, and Bill Guggenheim.
My answers to the questions . . .
1. Are the events that happen while I am on Earth planned?
Yes, but not all of them. Only key events—from the soul’s perspective—appear to be pre-planned. Things that seem major to a human may be of no consequence from the soul’s perspective. Conversely, minor occurrences—at least from an earthly viewpoint— may be planned since they may actually be quite important for the soul.
Once on Earth, people have free will and they sometimes choose to create events that were not designed on the soul level.
2. Who does the planning? God? Your soul? Your guides?
Ideally, by all of the above after collaborating to plan an optimal earth-experience. More mature souls use the wisdom of their spiritual support team (angels, guides, soul mates, the Light) and design key life events accordingly.
However, beginner souls—less advanced or younger parts of the One—may not recognize the importance of listening to others. Like impulsive or rebellious children, more immature beings may make impulsive or questionable decisions. That is their choice, of course, for we live in a free-will Universe. However, they experience the results of their choices. That’s how they learn about the law of cause and effect and, thus, the wisdom of seeking wise counsel.
To be clear, when I discuss the role of God/Source/the Light in life design, I am NOT talking about a huge guy in the sky with long white hair and a beard. Further, a personified Deity does NOT unilaterally decide how and when all life events play out. This image of Infinite Intelligence is an unfortunate carry-over from the Dark Ages; the short-comings of it become abundantly clear when one faces difficulties.
3. To what degree are events planned? Are they completely set-in-stone or just partially influenced?
Most pre-planning by the soul consists of likelihoods. That is, events aren’t set up as completely predetermined, but exist more as potentialities. Here’s my impression of how it works. Let’s say a soul wants to grow in patience and compassion as the main goals for an upcoming earth-incarnation. That soul sets up a probability that he will be severely injured. The long recovery and immobility phases would set the stage for developing the desired personality improvements.
Although I’ve not sought corroboration about it, I believe this was part of my soul’s pre-planning. Throughout my life, I’ve periodically felt that a potential outcome was to be paralyzed. That seems to be one of the toughest challenges, especially for a person who is used to being physically fit and active. Having flashes of that possibility is one reason I sold my beloved BMW motorcycle at age 24.
Maybe there were other possible preplanned routes to gaining those attributes.
When my Pony League baseball team lost, I got very angry and cried. I remember my Grandpa Marsh earnestly telling me that I can’t always win—I can only do my best. That made sense and my rage after losing abated. As I look back on that time so many years later, it seems that listening to his advice was a key to me learning patience.
My parents made me shovel snow and mow yards for several old people in our neighborhood, usually with no pay. At the time, it seemed unfair but—from a longer term perspective—I can see many benefits from doing that. One was that I became part of these senior citizens’ lives, understood what it was like for them, and thus had more compassion. I’ve helped tens of thousands of people during the last 44 years and thereby cultivated much patience and compassion.
Life can either teach you with a gentle tap on the shoulder or a two-by-four on the head. After learning the hard way a few times, I try to choose the easier way.
A minority of life-events are established as absolutes rather than possibilities. For example, consider the outcome if a soul chose to be born into a body deformed by Thalidomide, Paxil, or another drug with serious side-effects. That soul chose an occurrence that was a certainty, that is, an irreversible physical abnormality.
4. Do souls always succeed with their plans or do they sometimes fail?
The level of a soul’s advancement determines whether and to what degree its purposes are reached. Beginner souls are less adept in realizing and demonstrating how much they co-create their lives, while advanced souls have more experience in this regard. By the way, there is no hierarchy or pride in being a more evolved soul. Every part of creation and every stage of development is recognized as important and of equal value.
A younger soul does not always follow the ideal plans. Reasons for this can include:
1. interference due to poor home situations
2. lack of body and brain balance due to environmental factors
3. impulsive choice of host body during the pre-planning stages
4. a stubborn or resistive streak that needs improving
This helps explain how murder, prejudice, abuse, and other lower-energy actions can co-exist in a fair and loving universe. God or “the Devil” don’t make that happen. The polarities and contrasts on this planet create a first-class classroom; that’s why souls choose to come to such a dense and difficult physical plane.
Souls often fail at fulfilling their ideal plans, but they know that—just as a little child learns to walk after falling down a zillion times—that their “failure” will enhance learning. They also know that we have eternity to get it right, Creator is infinitely patient and nonjudgmental, and time is not a barrier to learning and growing.
So there’s no fear or pressure when, despite their best intentions, they take the low road instead of the high road. Souls know very well that all paths lead to God because that is—whether we remember it or not—our true nature now and always.
5. Can pre-planning be changed and, if so, by whom?
Indications are that soul planning can be changed and the soul always has a role in that decision. The spiritual support team may strongly suggest an alteration of plans, but the soul retains free will to listen or not. Extensive preparation occurs before a soul enters into a physical body: potential scenarios are examined, future family members are visited, and even the locale of birth is evaluated.
Nevertheless, change can occur: a soul’s emphases might shift; goals may be reached sooner than expected; or supporting cast members may not fulfill their parts. Any of these can necessitate a change in the script. It’s very much like a movie, theatrical play, or book. To extend that analogy, you are the writer, producer, director, and actor of your life’s story. You determine whether your life is most like a tragedy, quirky comedy, repetitive melodrama, or exciting and successful adventure.
It often happens that the personality gets off track and—with the soul’s consent—original plans need to be modified. Pre-birth plans are frequently amended in the dream state. As you sleep, your essence can leave the body and meet with soul-mates and guides. You and your team discuss how things are going and evaluate if changes should be made. This helps explain why you may sleep more than usual during times of stress or change.
Another reason for changing the original plans might be to take an alternate route. You could take the interstate and get there more quickly, or the back roads to enjoy the scenery and avoid stressful traffic. The soul knows that—as the popular children’s song reminds us—life is but a dream. So it’s not obsessed about reaching the finish line as quickly as possible. Life and expansion are never-ending.
6. Why in the world would souls choose to experience illness, disability, broken relationships, financial loss, death of loved ones, and other forms of suffering?
It’s a very important question, isn’t it? From a human perspective, only a lunatic would choose suffering. There are a few sides to this one, so stay with me . . . .
During 44 years of working with others, I’ve been privileged to meet incredibly impressive people who faced tremendous adversity: Geraldine was raped by her uncle at age 14, then thrown out by her family when she became pregnant; Rob was paralyzed from the waist down after a motorcycle accident; Michael lost his vision at a young age; Elizabeth’s son died tragically; the list goes on and on.
Each of them were able to work through their lower energy emotions such as anger, bitterness, sadness, self-pity, and hopelessness. Over time, they upgraded those emotions into higher energy ones: peace, acceptance, gratitude, and even enthusiasm and joy. They each contributed to our world and helped others.
I’ve seen it so many times that I know it’s possible. Most of them said that they wouldn’t go back and change things even if they could. They recognized the benefits that directly resulted from their challenges and valued those more than their personal comfort. How does one reach this point of understanding?
First, realize that time is a human construct. From an earthly perspective, time seems to move very slowly, for example, when you are in severe pain or missing a “departed” loved one. However, the collective evidence shows that this earthly life—even if it’s one hundred difficult years—is but a blink of an eye in the span of eternity. So, you tell me: is it worth a relatively few moments of challenges to learn and serve others? Souls think so.
Next, remember that not all suffering is pre-planned on a soul level. You can’t know what is and what isn’t without the benefit of a medium, spiritual regression, or another way to evaluate. It’s even difficult to make guesstimates since a soul’s perspective is so different from that of humans. But it’s clear that difficulties, whether pre-planned or not, can result in a great good for you and others.
A patient I worked with drank himself stupid before driving his motorcycle at high speeds. A leg will lose a fight with a guard rail every time so he will spend the rest of this earth-experience with only one leg. Whether his soul chose that or not, he certainly stacked the deck in favor of a physical injury. If he did pre-plan it as a likelihood, possible reasons include that he:
• Was an alcoholic in other times/places. This earth-experience gave him a chance to take better care of his physical body, the temple of his soul. If that was the goal, I’m
guessing that he didn’t get high grades.
• Used his physical body to hurt others in “past lives” so he chose to lose a leg in this one. That will help him realize the importance of the Golden Rule
• Really is an advanced soul who chose that scenario to powerfully warn others what happens when you drink and drive. It also allowed me to tell this story.
It’s said that when asked why there is so much suffering, the Buddha answered: “For the opportunities to grow and serve others.” Post that where you’ll read it several times a day because it really says it all. Over time, various cultures have taught that suffering is grace and we shouldn’t question God’s will. Native Americans had “mystery bags” in which they symbolically stored what didn’t make sense to them at the time. Other cultures have recognized the “X-factor” and the value of the unknowable in life. These view-points recognize that human perspectives can fail to capture the richness and timing of life events.
Suffering can have many layers of meaning. Thirty-five year-old Mary, a wife and mother of three young children, developed breast cancer. After receiving the best of traditional medical/disease care—surgery, radiation, and chemo—she died. From the 1% perspective of the five senses, that certainly seemed to be a horrible occurrence. From the 99% greater viewpoint of reality, however, her illness and death may have been designed so:
• her husband and children would be more likely to reach down deep and remember who they are
• caregivers could develop their skills by working with her
• estranged family members would reunite
• more people learn the importance of buying healthy and chemical-free food, cleaning, and body care products that don’t pollute the body and planet
• others realize the wisdom of using natural healing whenever possible instead of just relying on dangerous and expensive crisis care methods
• her soul could take an early exit to the next page in life’s eternal book
Children with drug and/or alcohol addictions take a horrible toll on many families. Divorce, bankruptcy, and stress-related illness commonly affect the parents and the child may still die. It’s an all-too-common event. Possible reasons why the souls involved—the child and family members—might have chosen to endure such difficulties include:
• difficulty builds spiritual muscles
• the parents may have been drug addicts who ruined the lives of others in another time/place, thus their choice to experience the other side of the coin
• enlightening people and health care professionals about how to address core causes of addiction
• addicted children can be teachers for others in the family; going through all that challenge can result in greater growth and service to others
• parents can learn to set limits, monitor children, and take actions that are unpopular but important
• the parents’ relationship can grow stronger while going through all this
What about suicide? An elderly woman was losing her mind while her body was failing horribly. Her husband had passed on many years before and she didn’t want to burden her children who were busy with their jobs and family. She didn’t want to spend their inheritance on health care that would only delay the inevitable by a few months or years. Finally, she wanted to leave this planet on her terms and not suffer with extended degeneration. So she started her car in a closed garage and died from carbon monoxide poisoning.
Suicide among young people is so common these days. When I speak to groups of bereaved parents, about 20% of their children died this way. Most recently, a mom told me about her very happy and well-balanced son who was prescribed a generic form of the drug Accutane for his acne. He shot himself in the head just a few months later. That’s why the makers of Accutane first issued a black-box warning for possible increased suicidal behavior and then pulled the drug off the market.
Did the souls of this young man and his family volunteer to go through challenges that could potentially bless others? Or was God asleep at the wheel for yet another tragedy? Only you can decide for yourself, but the evidence indicates it’s the former.
Suicide is too complex of an issue to discuss fully in this article. In general, it’s my impression that souls may pre-plan the possibility of suicide to:
• allow very old people to die with more dignity versus slowly vegetating
• allow souls who died by suicide in another time/place to experience the devastation it can cause when their loved one dies that way
• in native cultures, so the infirm person isn’t draining tribal resources
• the person who dies can move on into the next phase of life
• help warn others about the potential negative impacts of prescription drugs, vaccinations, excessive heavy metals, chemicals, stress, and harmful foods, that may affect the
brains of sensitive people. In my opinion, these all are causative factors in the high suicide rate among young people.
• bring attention to the paradox that we mercifully euthanize our pets, but humans must suffer and decay away? Bioethics haven’t caught up with
technological advances that can keep people alive way beyond any semblance of quality living.
Is murder preplanned? If so, for the murderer, the murdered, or both? And are we using legal definitions of western society? That is, does murder include killing someone in self-defense? How about abortion? What about killing someone in war because your country orders you to? Murder is done to others who don’t, at least consciously, choose to end this earthly life. It’s a complicated question and I have the least amount of certainty about this one.
Answers from consciousness experts I contacted about this question included:
• It’s my understanding that souls never purposely choose to murder
• Sometimes murder is preplanned but only when greater blessings can result
• I don’t know
• Maybe, but who knows for sure?
Does that clear things up for you?
Beings in nonphysical realms are very aware that love is our essential nature and all that really exists. The goal of enlightened souls is always to grow in and show love. As such, on the one hand, it doesn’t make sense that souls would preplan to murder someone. However, there are some cases that indicate a soul chose to murder because that would result in a greater good and, ultimately, more love.
Free will exists and people can make poor choices, especially when confronted with excess stress, brain chemistry imbalance, abuse, etc. That accounts for the cause behind most murders. Beginner souls may make an impulsive choice of body/brain and not heed wise counsel of their guides and the Light. People may suffer abuse from others that was more difficult than anticipated. These events could result in a twisting of psyche and horrible choices such as murder.
I can better understand why souls may choose the possibility of being murdered:
a. They inhabited bodies that murdered someone in another time/place. Being murdered in this one will help them realize that action is not acceptable.
b. A person murdered someone in the past and chose to reincarnate with a dear one murdered for the same reasons as (a.)
c. Advanced or intermediate souls may choose to be killed to help imbalanced beginner souls learn by trial and error.
d. The murder may have been designed to help health care professionals better address the core issues of such mental health ailments.
e. Being murdered always provides a timely ticket back Home when a soul doesn’t need to go through a long time on Earth.
By the way, if my mortal mind can generate this many reasons why seeming tragic events like murder and suicide might happen, just think how many there really are!
My strong sense is that even something as horrible as murder can result in a greater good. Universe/Life is so wisely and lovingly set up that there are endless safety nets and opportunities to convert “sad and bad” into good. I hope this helps those with a loved one who was murdered.
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You hopefully now understand more about the complex question, “Did my soul really plan all this?” Our limited human minds cannot fully understand limitless possibilities, but we’re getting closer. That’s why Native American and other indigenous wisdom sources had another name for Great Spirit . . . The Great Mystery. We may never fathom everything, but I hope you have more comfort and trust that, as Buckminster Fuller said, the Universe is friendly.
I’ve created several audio-products to help you better understand, accept, and transform when life events seem senseless:
• Ask Your Soul: access your inner wisdom using deep relaxation to answer the most commonly asked questions about life, death, and afterlife.
• Heal & Transform Your Suffering: under hypnosis, see past challenges in a new light. Learn why you, as a soul, might have chosen difficult scenarios so you can reap the
rewards that always accompany adversity.
• Transformational Breathwork: deep, noisy, diaphragmatic breathing with music and coaching to release old wounds and stuck energy
• Facilitated After-Death Contact: visit with your beloved people and pets who have transitioned from this earth-experience. Designed to expand your awareness that they are very near and want you to be happy. Learn how to enjoy a continued, although different, kind of relationship with them now.
A bottom line? Humans usually want safety, comfort, and ease. Souls care for none of that; they want to grow, serve, expand, and enjoy adventures and the richness of life. From their nonphysical perspective, they remember:
• no one really dies since our energy/essence cannot be destroyed
• love is forever since we see our departed loved ones again and again
• they are one with God/Universe/All That Is—right now and always
• challenges develop strength of spirit in many ways
• they come to Earth because of the rich opportunities for loving service, adventure, growth, and enjoyment
It seems we have come full circle to the opening discussion of dualistic versus unitive consciousness. All life really is interconnected, ever-expanding, and eternal
. . . remember? I know it doesn’t seem that way at times, but that is our task: to see beyond our limited five senses, understand more of the greater reality, then do our best to live accordingly.
Let me know how I can help you and your loved ones to enjoy the greatest life you have envisioned and shine your inner light brightly.
Note: This information is not designed to replace medical or psychological care. Dr. Pitstick’s recommendations are based on his four decades of training and experience in hospitals, pastoral counseling settings, mental health centers, and holistic private practice. They are not based on large subject studies, especially those funded by the medical/disease-care industry.
Mark Pitstick, MA, DC is a author, clinical psychologist, holistic physician, frequent media guest, and workshop facilitator. His goal is to help you know and show —no matter what is going on around you—that your earth-experience is a totally safe, meaningful, and magnificent adventure amidst forever. Visit www.soulproof.com for free articles, newsletters, and radio shows with top consciousness experts. Email Mark at mark@soulproof.com to ask your toughest questions about life, death, and afterlife.
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International Association for Near Death Studies (IANDS) Orange County Chapter Support and Interest Group
Featured Speaker: Reverend Peter Panagore
Date: Saturday, October 8, 2016
Time: 1:00-4:00 pm
Place: School of Multidimensional Healing & Sciences
18271 McDurmott West, Suite H, Irvine (Directions Below)
“Heaven is Beautiful: How Dying Taught Me that Death is just the Beginning”
Reverend Peter Panagore will describe the life-altering near death experiences he had, while ice-climbing, and how he continues to live, much of the time, in the awe-inspiring love and peace he felt then.
While administering aid to a car crash victim by a roadside, a shaft of light coursed through his body, and he says “I wasn’t in charge after that.” He describes being pulled out of his body to “the greater darkness, and experiencing a pulsation of light and darkness.” His daily life is one “déjà vu” experience after another, as if he’s lived each moment before. He expresses that he is in pain, because he wants so much “to go back”…but he stays here to teach that God is love.
BIO: Reverend Peter Panagore, of Ocean Point, Maine, author of Heaven Is Beautiful: How Dying Taught Me That Death Is Just The Beginning and Two Minutes for God: Quick Fixes For The Spirit, is a broadcaster on Sunday morning commercial TV reaching 37,000 viewers weekly locally on WCSH 6 from Portland, and serves as the fifth minister (writer, producer, manager, administrator, fund raiser, and media pastor) of the oldest religious broadcast in America, founded in 1926. First Radio Parish Church of America is branded as DailyDevotions.org where you can select from fifteen hundred two minute Daily Devotion videos. A New Englander, born and raised in Marlborough, Massachusetts, and on Cape Cod, he is a graduate of Yale University in Connecticut with a Masters of Divinity with a focus on the writings of Christian mystics and systematic theology. The Rev. earned his first degree—a B.A. in English–from the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, which was where he began his yoga practice of the subtle body. He attended Montana State University in Bozeman for one year as a National Exchange Student, from where he toured on stage nationally in the American Sign Language based Theater of Silence as a mime. At the age of twenty-one, while ice climbing in Alberta, Canada, he suffered a Near Death Experience. Teenage Peter graduated from a Roman Catholic college prep school–Saint John’s High School in Massachusetts where he rowed crew and where he learned to practice meditation. Raised by Greek Orthodox and Roman Catholic parents, he attended both churches, and was later ordained in the ‘open and affirming’ United Church of Christ. Before moving on to broadcasting and media Pastor Peter preached for eighteen years from pulpits in Connecticut and coastal Maine, where he always cared the same for the marginalized and the well to do, finishing that portion of his ministry by serving the people of the Boothbay Region from the pulpit of the Congregational Church of Boothbay Harbor, United Church of Christ.
Parson Peter was a staff writer for six years at HOMILETICS, now HOMILETICS ONLINE, a leading nationwide worship preparation journal for clergy. Homiletics published more than a hundred and fifty of his sermons and all of which were heard preached in Boothbay Harbor. Peter has published short stories in anthologies, most notably, Chicken Soup for the Veteran’s Soul, by New York Times Best Selling editor Jack Canfield. He continues to go adventuring in the wildernesses inward and outward.
OC IANDS exists for people in the Orange County and surrounding area who have had a near-death and/or related experiences or who have personal or professional interest in such experiences. The group provides a forum in which to discuss such experiences and their meaning and integration into subsequent life.
Discussion takes place in an atmosphere of openness and interest/support without judgment, proselytizing, or advice-giving. The group meets on the second Saturday of each month from 1:00-4:00 p.m. in Irvine. We have a structured program with a guest speaker followed by discussion.
IANDS is not affiliated with any specific religion.
Those who attend and who can afford to do so are asked to make a $10 contribution toward our cost for rental of our meeting room.
Nanci Danison, who had an NDE in 1994, is most remarkable for the extraordinary amount of information she was given AND remembers, with an exceptional ability to articulate it so it’s simple and understood by everyone. It’s her account that I most resonate with that has helped shape my spiritual beliefs. She’s approachable, and have spoken with her several times over the years, in particular to invite her to be a speaker for OC IANDS. She is more than willing to do so but we will have to stream her talk, and arrange to obtain the electronics to do so. I’ll work with our wonderful current facilitator, Michelle Wozniak to see if we can make it happen. I receive her newsletter and for some reason, felt this is a topic of value for you today.
MANIFESTING MONEY
Many readers have asked me over the years whether manifesting can be used to make money. Andy recently phrased it this way: “You wrote [in a newsletter]: ‘Unfortunately, when the soul part of us thinks it is human, if often manifests what it believes to be true based on human experiences.’ It sounds like the soul can get confused with being a human and then manifest the human’s beliefs. As an example, if the human had a belief that he wanted a lot of money, and the soul part thinks it is human, it would then manifest a lot of money?”
We souls generally do believe we are human. That is why I am trying to wake more of us up to our memories of who we really are.
No. This confusion does not cause us to manifest what humans want. We manifest what we spiritual entities truly and deeply believe about ourselves and life. We can, and do, have entirely different beliefs than the bodies we inhabit. That’s what creates a lot of the inner conflict we feel.
A human may desire a lot of money, but healthy adults do not believe that just wanting money is enough to make it appear. Adults generally believe money must be earned via a job, won in a game or contest, inherited, stolen, received as a gift, or exchanged for the sale of goods or services. Light Being souls believe this too, because this has been our human experience. So we do not manifest money like magic. Light Beings may, however, manifest opportunities to receive money in one of the ways listed here. But we will do so only if money is necessary to accomplish our spiritual goals, which isn’t often.
In short, manifesting is a spiritual power used to further soul goals, not a get-rich-quick scheme to satisfy human greed.
There is a whole chapter on this subject in my work-in-progress book on manifesting, entitled We Are Creators: Powerful Beyond the Law of Attraction.
Thank you so much for being open to the messages I returned from the afterlife to share.
Nanci L. Danison, JD, afterlife experiencer, retired attorney, and author of BACKWARDS: Returning to Our Source for Answers, BACKWARDS Guidebook, BACKWARDS Beliefs: Revealing Eternal Truths Hidden in Religions, Answers from the Afterlife, and the Light Answers to Tough Questions series of CDs and DVDs (A.P. Lee & Co., Ltd., Publishers). Visit me at www.BackwardsBooks.com or watch me on YouTube.
International Association for Near Death Studies (IANDS) Orange County Chapter Support and Interest Group
Featured Speaker: Scott Fitzgerald De Tamble
Date: Saturday, September 10, 2016
Time: 1:00-4:00 pm
Place: School of Multidimensional Healing & Sciences
18271 McDurmott West, Suite H, Irvine (Directions Below)
“Life Between Lives” & Past Life Regression Group Experience
Scott Fitzgerald De Tamble, C.Ht., C.M.T. will give a presentation on Life Between Lives, and also facilitate a “Past Life & Meet Your Spirit Guide” live Group Hypnotic Regression.
Life Between Lives is a profound hypnotic technique that connects you to your soul awareness. Guided into the spiritual state between lifetimes, you can meet and communicate with your own personal Spirit Guide, greet your beloved Soulmates and Soul Groups, and consult advanced spiritual masters known as the Council of Elders. You gain opportunities for learning, healing, and tracing the threads of your own soul’s history. Most importantly, you can remember your path and purpose in your current lifetime.
Pioneered by Dr. Michael Newton, the Life Between Lives journey is an evolution beyond Past Life Regression. It allows you to transcend your current personality and connect with your immortal identity, and find your own answers to the age-old questions, “Who am I,” and “Why am I here now?’
Following his talk on Life Between Lives, Scott will be pleased to address any audience questions. Then, he will guide the group in a deep hypnotic regression focused on visiting a meaningful Past Life and meeting and conversing with their personal Spirit Guides. As time allows, he will invite audience members to share of their experiences.
Scott is a Clinical Hypnotherapist in Southern California, specializing in Past Life Regression and Life Between Lives Spiritual Regression. For the past 15 years he has dedicated himself to guiding hundreds of clients to a deeper understanding of their eternal soul and their current life’s mission.
He is a Contributing Author to The Newton Institute book, “Memories of the Afterlife.” Several of Scott’s hypnotic regression sessions are featured in “Flipside,” Richard Martini’s entertaining film and book about LBL work and our eternal spiritual nature. Scott’s session work is also spotlighted in Martini’s books, “It’s a Wonderful Afterlife,” and his newest work, “Hacking the Afterlife,” as well as Michael R. Kramer’s new book, “Soul to God.”
Scott is also a Certified Master Trainer of Hypnosis & Hypnotherapy, offering education and Hypnosis Certification for students under the banner of IACT, the International Association of Counselors & Therapists. He also trains hypnotherapists in Past Life Regression and Spiritual Hypnotherapy, and provides private mentoring for developing therapists.
OC IANDS exists for people in the Orange County and surrounding area who have had a near-death and/or related experiences or who have personal or professional interest in such experiences. The group provides a forum in which to discuss such experiences and their meaning and integration into subsequent life.
Discussion takes place in an atmosphere of openness and interest/support without judgment, proselytizing, or advice-giving. The group meets on the second Saturday of each month from 1:00-4:00 p.m. in Irvine. We have a structured program with a guest speaker followed by discussion.
IANDS is not affiliated with any specific religion.
Those who attend and who can afford to do so are asked to make a $10 contribution toward our cost for rental of our meeting room.
Dr. Rajiv Parti was a speaker twice at Orange County IANDS (an interest/support group) and one of my favorites of all time. I love this man probably because his transformation changed him from an arrogant, nasty, materialistic, shallow man, who wasn’t even pleasant to his wife and children, to the complete opposite in every way.
Here is the link to an excellent article written about him on Time.com
Today, this former not-a-nice-guy, is truly a new man, completely self-less and devoted to his mission.
He’ll be George Noory’s guest on Coast to Coast AM, Tues, Aug 23, 2016, first half of the show. I tell you from the bottom of my heart, because you are a human being living your life cycle, this is relevant to you regardless of your religious background. Coast to Coast is on late in most markets, I believe, 10:00 to midnight. George starts with some news, Rajiv would probably come on about 10:20-10:30 pm. You can also listen live from C2C’s website: http://www.coasttocoastam.com or on KFI640’s AM website, www.kfi640.com.
When a Child Passes On . . . 12 Messages for Their Loved Ones
I am very sorry for the passing of your loved one and all the pain and sadness that can go with it. That is one of, if not the biggest, changes a person can go through. When a child transitions, you can grieve horribly for the rest of your life and no one will judge you for it. But there’s another way. Some bereaved parents have been able to upgrade their emotions of sadness, anger, and pain toward higher energy ones such as gratitude for their time together, enthusiasm about seeing each other again, and loving service to others. Here are twelve keys to moving in that direction . . .
1. Remember that no one really dies. Yes, the physical body died. However, that outer shell is much less than 1% of who and what he actually is. The rest—all the love, energy, consciousness, intelligence, spirit, light—continues on into the next phase of forever. Death is an optical illusion because of our limited brain and sense organs. The Soul Proof book and documentary film shares the clinical, scientific, and empirical evidence that we each are timeless beings of energy/spirit/ consciousness. You now have more urgency to learn about the other 99.9% of who you and your child really are. In doing so, you’ll become a brighter light in the world.
2. Know that you will see each other again. 75% of bereaved family members have after-death contacts (ADCs) involving the usual or subtler senses. These can occur while awake or dreaming and have been proven to be more than imagination or wishful thinking. Stay alert for unexpected encounters, unexplainable events, lucid dreams, or alterations in electrical device functioning. And, you will definitely see each other again when you pass on to the next phase of forever and have a wonderful reunion. To remember this great news, avoid using phrases such as “death” or “I lost my child” and upgrade them to “my child transitioned/graduated/changed worlds.”
3. Realize your child was likely an evolved or “old” soul. Souls, whether housed in five or ninety-five year-old bodies, change worlds when they have completed their earthly missions. Your child didn’t have major lessons to learn, thus her brief visit to planet earth. Some children leave clues that their time on earth is short: they are more loving and compassionate than usual or have a sense of urgency to experience all they can while they can.
4. Create meaning for your departed loved ones life. One way to reenter the flow of life is to honor your child’s life in some way. Some parents help the needy in their child’s name while others start foundations or scholar-ships. Some help start a Helping Parents Heal group while others work to prevent needless injuries from drunk drivers, preventable accidents, or medical treatment abuses. The Ask Your Soul CD uses deep relaxation and can help you identify how to create more meaning to her passing and help you heal.
5. Understand that God didn’t take your child away. Avoid getting caught up in excess anger toward inaccurate religious teachings and personified images of God. We each are part of Source Energy right now. Archaic notions of a huge bearded guy in the sky who decides when and how someone crosses over are never useful, especially when a child is involved.
6. Be aware that your child’s passing helps you and others grow and learn. The old saying “That which does not kill me makes me stronger” is absolutely true. Just imagine how wise and compassionate you can become after struggling with such pain. The physical death of a child—much like near-death experiences, severe accidents, being in war, etc.—can awaken you to the vastness of life that usually escapes the five senses. You will be more motivated to find good answers to life’s toughest questions such as those in The Eleven Questions: Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Life, Death, and Afterlife. Our and your answers can develop your spiritual muscles and help you remember who you really are and why you’re here.
7. Take optimal care of yourself. The physical death of a child is a huge stressor to the body and mind, especially if you are already out of balance due to post-pregnancy nutritional deficiencies or other causes. As discussed in Radiant Wellness, take time for rest, exercise, healthy diet, and stress reducing centering practices such as meditation, prayer, yoga, time in nature, gardening, playing with pets, etc. The Transformational Breath Work CD is a powerful way to release accumulated stress and old wounds.
8. Realize that death by any means is a ticket back Home. Passing on—whether by illness, accident, murder, or suicide—is a way to move on from this earth-experience. The soul/essence usually decides when physical death is timely, even during some suicides. Impulsive actions, intractable physical or mental pain, drug or alcohol abuse, nutritional imbalances and other factors can also cause a person to end his earth-experience. In any case, your loved one didn’t want to hurt or leave you. If strife preceded his passing, that was a sign of his pain and imbalance. Treasure your happy times together in the past and look forward to new ones in the future.
9. Consider the possibility that you and your child agreed, on a soul level, to participate in this scenario. Your infinite self likely entered into a soul contract to be part of this painful slice of life. Why? The short answer: to assist the plan of your child’s soul so you both could grow and serve others. This earth-experience is very much like a play or movie. Your child needed someone to play the role of parent, grandparent, sibling, etc. and you agreed. Your life may seem like a senseless nightmare right now, but I guarantee that someday—and you don’t have to wait until you die—you will see the big picture and understand the cosmic view of all this.
10. Assemble a holistic care team. Avoid prescription drugs whenever possible because of negative side-effects and potential for addiction. Find an integrative medical doctor who understands the power of natural healing and uses medications only when absolutely necessary. Consider one or more of the following to tune-up your body-mind: counseling, specific chiropractic, acupuncture, massage, and homeopathy. Energy balancing techniques and mediums may also be excellent resources. I recommendNutrition Response Testing to evaluate key organs—especially the brain and endocrine glands— and how to strengthen those with a real food diet and whole food Standard Process Visit www.unsinc.info to find the nearest practitioner.
11. Know that your child wants you to be happy now. Your child’s soul is very near and wants you to enjoy life again. She can feel your emotions and is urging you to awaken to the great news that life and love are eternal. Don’t blame yourself about anything you did or didn’t do or say since many details had to align for the timing and way your loved one transitioned. Enjoy your life fully on earth while you can. That will honor your child’s gifts and life and allow her to best experience the next page of life’s never-ending saga.
12. Benefit from loving support and wise information. This is the time to ask for help and lean on others. Consider joining a church or organization that offers spiritual wisdom, loving fellowship, and opportunities for service to others. Helping Parents Heal provides support, networking, an enlightened perspective, and personal transformation strategies. It discusses the afterlife evidence and all the hope and inspiration that accompany it. I’ve posted a series of articles that can help you survive and even thrive through this and other life challenges. They are posted on the home page of my website www.soulproof.com under Foundational Articles for Healing and Transforming.
So, here you are in a new moment and an important fork in your life’s road. Will you look for the silver linings to this cloud and bless yourself and others? Only you can choose how you will react to this difficult time. The old saying, “Two men looked through prison bars. One saw mud, the other stars,” reminds you that you can choose your perspective. I hope this information helps you to heal and transform yourself, others, and our world for the better. Let me know how I can help.
International Association for Near Death Studies (IANDS) Orange County Chapter Support and Interest Group
Featured Speaker: Julliena Okah
Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016
Time: 1:00-4:00 pm
Place: School of Multidimensional Healing & Sciences
18271 McDurmott West, Suite H, Irvine (Directions Below)
“Path to Heaven” – Presentation of Julliena Okah’s NDE with ET contact
Julliena Okah was born in Japan, studied music in Vienna via a scholarship, and is recognized as a world-class solo violin virtuoso. She has performed with the Vienna Radio Orchestra and the MGM Orchestra in Las Vegas, gracing the stage with such stars like Bob Hope and Dean Martin. It is thanks to Liberace’s encouragement that she became a headliner with her unique solo violin show on international cruise ships for over twenty years, also in theaters, and on television around the world.
One Life, Many Worlds: My Journeys through the Heavens and Hells of Extraterrestrial Worlds is the extraordinary life story of Julliena Okah, a solo violinist and artist who met nonhuman beings when she was a young girl in post-World War II Japan. Celestial, nonhuman beings have been guiding her throughout her life–and encounters she’s had have led her along unimaginable paths. Her true story tells of her spiritual awakening inspired by encounters with other worlds and their inhabitants. She has had a lifetime of contact with benevolent ETs and by her account, her musical skills were greatly enhanced in the wake of her ET encounters.
Also, the otherworldly power empowered her to become a painter without any prior interest nor training. Since then, Julliena Okah has had 40 exhibitions, including eight one-woman shows, receiving notable praise with numerous articles written about her.
Julliena Okah had three Near Death Experiences. She is currently making contributions to Dr. Penny Sartori, the world’s leading Near Death Experience expert’s upcoming two books. She will talk about her mysterious life with her music and paintings.
Spiritual awakening through her close encounters with near death and otherworldly experiences led Julliena to become a public speaker. Miss Okah is now devoting her life to convey her message that is how to exceed human realm and go to the higher vibrational worlds, path to heaven. Also let people to become aware of the worlds after death besides the otherworldly beings and their message.
Julliena Okah has traveled throughout the world and has lived in 14 countries. She studied various Indian creeds while living in India and studied Christianity in America. She resided in New York City and Nice, France, for 20 years before moving to Southern California.
OC IANDS exists for people in the Orange County and surrounding area who have had a near-death and/or related experiences or who have personal or professional interest in such experiences. The group provides a forum in which to discuss such experiences and their meaning and integration into subsequent life.
Discussion takes place in an atmosphere of openness and interest/support without judgment, proselytizing, or advice-giving. The group meets on the second Saturday of each month from 1:00-4:00 p.m. in Irvine. We have a structured program with a guest speaker followed by discussion.
IANDS is not affiliated with any specific religion.
Those who attend and who can afford to do so are asked to make a $10 contribution toward our cost for rental of our meeting room.
International Association for Near Death Studies (IANDS) Orange County Chapter Support and Interest Group
Featured Speaker: Roberta Grimes
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2016
Time: 1:00-4:00 pm
Place: School of Multidimensional Healing & Sciences
18271 McDurmott West, Suite H, Irvine (Directions Below)
The Fun of Dying – Find Out What Really Happens Next!
I am delighted to be meeting with the OC IANDS group on July 9th and sharing what has to be the greatest news in all of human history. For the first time, now we really know what happens at and after death, and it turns out that not only is death nothing to fear, but for most of us it is the best time of our lives!
I had two experiences of light in childhood. These extraordinary spiritual events are much rarer than near-death experiences, but they shape our lives in much the same way; and in my case, they set me on a decades-long search for information about what happens at and after death. It turns out that we have nearly two hundred years of abundant and consistent communications from people we used to think were dead, and when what these folks tell us is combined with quantum physics, consciousness studies, and other areas of scientific inquiry it gives us an amazingly detailed picture of the death process and of the greater reality that we enter at death. When it is illuminated by ancient spiritual writings, what the dead say also helps us begin to understand why we are here and how we can make the very most of each lifetime.
This is a big topic! But since the testimony of the dead is so breathtakingly consistent across communication styles, earthly locations, and nearly two centuries of time, it isn’t difficult to understand and get our minds around. And since the news is nearly all good – it’s better than your most optimistic imaginings! – beginning really to understanding the life between our lifetimes and how all of reality fits together can empower us to live fearless and much richer lives.
The notion that dying and being dead is enjoyable seems counterintuitive to some people, but variations of that word are used by the dead themselves to describe their present lives. At death we enter a greater reality that may be twenty times the size of this universe, a realm without time that is based in love beyond our ability to comprehend it and is full of new things to experience and joyous ways to make ourselves even happier. The greatest earthly pleasures simply cannot compare. The more we learn about the portion of eternity that we spend in what we still call the afterlife, the richer and more blessed with abundant joy can be our brief, essential lifetimes on earth.
About Robert Grimes– Roberta is a business attorney who had two extraordinary experiences of light in childhood. She then spent decades studying nearly 200 years of abundant and consistent communications from the dead, quantum mechanics, and the nature of consciousness, and she shares what she has learned about what actually is going on in an enjoyable and easily understood trilogy. The Fun of Dying – Find Out What Really Happens Next details what we now know about the afterlife. The Fun of Staying in Touch is about some of the ways that the dead give us signs of their survival, and also many of the ways that we can communicate with them now. The Fun of Growing Forever reveals what must be the easiest and most powerful method for attaining rapid spiritual growth and building your own best life, both while you are on earth and forevermore.
Other books by Roberta Grimes include Liberating Jesus, which uses close Gospel analysis combined with what we are learning from the dead to explain the genuine meaning and message of Jesus. Flying High in Spirit is the memoir of a very advanced being who took another brief earth-lifetime, dying in 2007 at the age of 20, so he would be able to teach us the truth in the voice of a cheerful American boy. My Thomas is the true story of Thomas Jefferson’s life and marriage during the Revolutionary War. And The Atlantica Saga is a developing seven-novel series spanning half a millennium that uses what we are learning about the way reality actually works to tell five offbeat and adventurous love stories.
Roberta has been a guest on hundreds of radio programs. She hosts her own live show called Seek Reality on the BBM Global Network, and podcasts of previous Seek Reality episodes dating back to 2013 are available for free on WebTalkRadio.net and on iTunes. Roberta’s shows and podcasts feature interesting and sometimes controversial topics and guests. As with all her work, her radio shows and podcasts are meant to help you develop a better understanding of what actually is going on.
OC IANDS exists for people in the Orange County and surrounding area who have had a near-death and/or related experiences or who have personal or professional interest in such experiences. The group provides a forum in which to discuss such experiences and their meaning and integration into subsequent life.
Discussion takes place in an atmosphere of openness and interest/support without judgment, proselytizing, or advice-giving. The group meets on the second Saturday of each month from 1:00-4:00 p.m. in Irvine. We have a structured program with a guest speaker followed by discussion.
IANDS is not affiliated with any specific religion.
Those who attend and who can afford to do so are asked to make a $10 contribution toward our cost for rental of our meeting room.
International Association for Near Death Studies (IANDS) Orange County Chapter Support and Interest Group
Featured Speaker: Gary Stuart
Founder: Constellation Healing Institute
Date: Saturday, June 11, 2016
Time: 1:00-4:00 pm
Place: School of Multidimensional Healing & Sciences
18271 McDurmott West, Suite H, Irvine (Directions Below)
“CONSTELLATION Healing Experience Where Eternal and Real Time Meet”
I’m very excited to speak to the OC IANDS group about the concept that “Consciousness knows no death, everything is Consciousness!” This process of Constellation Healing Experience interfaces Eternal Spiritual time in Real Time at lightning speed. Time is a circle and we can enter at any point and be supported buy our own subconscious connection to our own eternal self and others we’re connected to in present familial incarnation or otherwise. It’s a supreme joy and honor to speak and allow all present to have this profound experience together.
The Dead support the Living and the Living support the Dead…
Ancestral family systems, social networks, businesses, cultural and spiritual systems – each one of these systems holds you like a huge “net” – holding you and everything together to ensure the system’s strength and survival. These subconscious bonds and loyalties exist in every aspect of your life. Constellations can reveal these entanglements and free you from their control. While experiencing the invisible dynamics in Real Time we are releasing its hold on you simultaneously allowing change to happen at a faster pace in your life.
The result is you can leave whatever is not serving you in the past, and move forward into a prosperous and unencumbered future.
All Constellations provide a unique window into these secret alliances and entangled energies in your life which stop your CHI and your life-force, from moving forward. Subconsciously, you may feel there is an unspoken debt that needs to be paid before you can find fulfillment. By revealing these entanglements, you have the ability to create healthy boundaries between those who came before you and yourself today. Each generation has a chance to start anew, and any perceived “price” left to be paid is not yours to pay. Their karma is theirs, not yours. Family loyalties are strong, and we often take on burdens that are not yours to carry. Without realizing it, you can do so in order to feel you belong to the family system. Ironically, you belong anyway, without doing a thing. But this often creates an emotional entanglement of GUILT. If you begin to do well, you may feel guilty for not suffering like they did. SHAME is another family dynamic which can keep you feeling stuck and unfulfilled. Even though you may outwardly say ” I don’t need anyone’s approval”, inside you may often feel hurt and excluded within your own family system. Even FEAR is used to stop us in our tracks if we dare to venture too far from the familial pattern. But while these may be the negative ties that bind us, there is a way to transform these entanglements into actual support. Subtle family dynamics affect your prosperity on many levels, and the Constellation process allows you to see how you got to where you are. The result is you can leave whatever is not serving you in the past, and move forward into a prosperous and unencumbered future.
Gary Stuart, Speaker, Author, 17 year Constellation Facilitator, Teacher/ Trainer has been documenting his healing experiences over the past several decades. As a young student of Primal Therapy and Shamanism, his insightful writings provide a unique perspective on the correlation between the micro and macro-cosmos, between our inner and outer worlds. His first book on Constellations “Many Hearts, One Soul” set the stage for his latest book “Master Your Universe: How to Direct & Star in Your Own Life” on Kindle or paperback at www.Amazon.com He leads weekly healing workshops and trainings nationally and internationally and resides in Los Angeles. Distance Constellations for Personal or Business/Organizations are his specialty.
He’s be facilitating Constellation Healing workshops weekly in LA, Santa Barbara & the Detroit Metro area August, September and November 2016.
OC IANDS exists for people in the Orange County and surrounding area who have had a near-death and/or related experiences or who have personal or professional interest in such experiences. The group provides a forum in which to discuss such experiences and their meaning and integration into subsequent life.
Discussion takes place in an atmosphere of openness and interest/support without judgment, proselytizing, or advice-giving. The group meets on the second Saturday of each month from 1:00-4:00 p.m. in Irvine. We have a structured program with a guest speaker followed by discussion.
IANDS is not affiliated with any specific religion.
Those who attend and who can afford to do so are asked to make a $10 contribution toward our cost for rental of our meeting room.
Enjoy all 5 hours of the classic Journey of Souls by Dr. Michael Newton in audio book format:
Using a special hypnosis technique to reach the hidden memories of subjects, Dr. Newton discovered some amazing insights into what happens to us between lives. Journey of Souls is the record of 29 people who recalled in specific detail their experiences between physical deaths. Through their extraordinary stories, you will learn specifics about:
How it feels to die
What you see and feel right after death
The truth about “spiritual guides”
What happens to “disturbed” souls
Why you are assigned to certain soul groups in the spirit world and what you do there
How you choose another body to return to Earth
The different levels of souls: beginning, intermediate, and advanced
When and where you first learn to recognize soulmates on Earth
The 2nd Saturday of each month, from 1pm-4pm at School of Multidimensional Healing Arts & Sciences, 18271 McDurmott West, Suite H, Irvine, CA
DIRECTIONS:
FROM NORTH OF IRVINE
South on 405 Fwy/San Diego
Exit MacArthur
Right on MacArthur for 300 yards
Left on Main St.
Go through the light at Red Hill
Make U-turn at the next light at McDurmott
The next street is also McDurmott (it curves around). Turn Right on McDurmott (just before Red Hill)
We are the last building on the left as the street begins to curve right
Turn left into parking lot at 18271 Bldg. Suite H
FROM 55 North (Tustin/Orange)
South on 55 Fwy
Exit MacArthur
Right on MacArthur for 300 yards
Left on Main St.
Go under the overpass
Turn Right onto McDurmott East.
Follow the street around where it curves to the left. Turn Right into parking lot where you see the post for the address of 18271. You'll see the before McDermott curves to the left again.
FROM THE SOUTH
North on 405 Fwy
Exit MacArthur, stay in center right turn lane
Right on MacArthur for 200 yards
Left on Main St.
Go through the light at Redhill Ave.
Make a U-turn at the light (McDurmott). The next street is also McDurmott (it’s curves around). Turn Right on McDurmott (just before Red Hill)
We are the last building on the left as the street begins to curve right
Turn left into parking lot at 18271 Bldg. Suite H .
More About Our Meetings
Not everyone who attends has had a near-death or spiritually transformative experience. Everyone has their own reason why this group is of interest, and all are welcome.
OC IANDS was created for the Orange County community and surrounding areas for those who have had a near-death and/or related experiences or who have a personal or professional interest in such experiences. The group provides a forum in which to discuss such experiences and their meaning and integration into subsequent life. Discussion takes place in an atmosphere of openness and interest/support without judgment, proselytizing, or advice-giving.
The group meets on the second Saturday of each month from 1:00-4:00 p.m. in Irvine.
We have a structured program almost always with a featured speaker, followed by discussion, and Q and A. Our group is not affiliated with any specific religion.
We appreciate a donation of $10 to help with the cost of the room rental, but no one is turned away.
Have you had a near-death or transformative spiritual experience?
If you would like to explore the possibility of sharing your story as a guest speaker, please send an email to robin@robinbarr.com, or call Robin at 949-290-1949.
